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Re: Game wishlist
Posted: January 21st, 2010, 12:55 am
by leilei
Since you're doing Win9x games now (since more win9x shareware sites are being phased out for turning into another oberon trial plugging portal), here's a few **classic** suggestions:
Fire Fight (Epic/Chaos Works/EA, 1996) [Added to the site]
Doom 95 (id software, 1996. If you have the 16-bit Hugo games in addition to the dos, it makes sense for this widely distributed shareware episode of Doom with Doom95) [Added to the site]
Lemmings Paintball (Visual Sciences, 1996) [Added to the site]
Gubble (Presto, 1996)
Lose Your Marbles (Segasoft, 1997)
Blast Doors (Fred's Fiends, 1997)
Warheads (Totalplay/Ionos, 1997)
Jazz Jackrabbit 2 (Epic, 1998 (but was in development by 1996, delayed severely by Unreal)) [Added to the site]
DXBall 2 (Longbow Digital Arts, 1999. Might be worth adding this to Seumas's 10th anniversary)
Are you going for anything that uses 3D accelleration? You'd have to list these APIs as video modes:
3dfx Glide
S3 Virge/Savage 3D
PowerVR SGL
Rendition Redline
Direct3D (2,3,5,6)
OpenGL
MMX (some games are MMX software rendered exclusive)
Re: Game wishlist
Posted: January 24th, 2010, 4:38 pm
by leilei
ARGH old win32 games are hard to find now! Googling exact file names won't do the job

probably because win32 games aren't as shovelware'd as win16 or DOS games thanks to big game hosting sites that are currently defunct.
Later i'll upload some win32 demos I have as original installers/zips when I find them.
Oh by the way there's TWO versions of Doom 95. The old one is 3.69mb.
Re: Game wishlist
Posted: January 25th, 2010, 5:17 am
by ThreeHeadedMonkey
There's also the old beta versions from when it was still called WinDOOM.
Re: Game wishlist
Posted: February 1st, 2010, 7:48 am
by Videogamer555
I couldn't help but notice the title you gave for your Tyrian section was "Tyrian 2000 Dos-shareware-turned-freeware". However of ALL the tyrian games listed at the bottom of the section the only one that you did NOT list the freeware version of was Tyrian 2000, ironically. Please post the freeware release of the full version of Tyrian 2000.
Also, for the sake of completeness, please post the freeware release of the full version of Tyrian 1.0 (currently only the shareware version is shown). I'm sure if they release all other versions as freeware, that version 1.0 is also released as freeware, being the oldest version.
Re: Game wishlist
Posted: February 1st, 2010, 6:02 pm
by DOSGuy
If I had them I'd post them. Can you help me find them?
Re: Game wishlist
Posted: February 1st, 2010, 10:47 pm
by leilei
1.0 registered? The earliest registered i've got is 1.1. Some games dot a .1 for the registered version (Ken's Labyrinth, also distributed by Epic Megagames also comes to mind)
Re: Game wishlist
Posted: February 2nd, 2010, 1:36 am
by Videogamer555
DOSGuy wrote:If I had them I'd post them. Can you help me find them?
After googling around a bit, I found it at a sited called Abandonia. Here is the full version of Tyrian 2000:
[site removed]
Re: Game wishlist
Posted: February 2nd, 2010, 4:57 pm
by leilei
- New savegames, check
- 2002 folder, check
- 2000 uninstaler file, check
- logs
You expect him to upload that unpure abandonware site tampered archive?!
Tyrian 2000 full used to be on the site but was removed, fyi.
Re: Game wishlist
Posted: February 2nd, 2010, 5:56 pm
by Videogamer555
How do you think it's tampered? Was it the the ship editor? I thought that was part of the official release of the full version of Tyrian 2000.
Re: Game wishlist
Posted: February 2nd, 2010, 6:03 pm
by Videogamer555
Tyrian AND Tyrian2000 are BOTH true abandonware. Not only are they NOT for sale, even on Amazon or Ebay, they are not sold by ANY company including their own source company Epic Megagames. In fact I heard that said company has officially released ALL Tyrian games (including Tyrian2000) as freeware. Thus they are OFFICIALLY and LEGALLY abandonware.
Re: Game wishlist
Posted: February 2nd, 2010, 6:19 pm
by leilei
There is no official 'abandonware'. 'Abandonware' is no such term, it is also not legally defined. If we went by your logic, you could say Half-Life retail is 'abandonware'. Is that right at all?
Epic didn't release Tyrian as freeware, World Tree Games (as they called themselves later on) did. But Tyrian is NO WAY abandonware. Its sheer cult popularity alone negates its 'abandonware status' anyway.
Re: Game wishlist
Posted: February 2nd, 2010, 11:22 pm
by DOSGuy
I don't mind posts to other game sites, but please don't post links to websites that host illegal content.
Leilei is right that the full version of Tyrian 2000 used to be on the site. I removed it because of a statement on World Tree Games' website that asked that their download of the full version not be redistributed. Similarly, ImagiSOFT declared all of their old games freeware, but they don't allow redistribution, so I host only the shareware versions and link to the page where the full versions can be downloaded from (
http://www.imagisoft.com/games.htm). This is the difference between freeware and abandonware: the copyright holder can reserve some of their rights to a freeware game. Freeware does not mean public domain.
That said, there was some debate about the meaning of World Tree Games' statement, so it's possible that I was being overly cautious when I took that download down. I always err on the side of caution and assume that software cannot be distributed unless I can find proof that it can be. Since Tyrian 2000 is such a popular game, maybe I'll just the write the author when I take my vacation in a couple of weeks. I don't have much time to work on the site right now because I work 8 hours a day, then go to college 4 hours a night (some nights), and I'm also a union steward so I have to attend union meetings on some of the other nights. Assuming that I don't drop dead first, I'll set aside some time to work on requests during my time off.
Re: Game wishlist
Posted: February 3rd, 2010, 6:40 pm
by Videogamer555
Do you still have the copy of Tyrian 2000 which you used to have on the website, such that if you found you COULD upload it, you'd be able to do so immediately without searching for the file again?
And I must tell you, I don't think it would be REdistributing it if it was here, it would just be distributing it, as the download is NO LONGER available from the World Tree Games website. The download link from their site is DEAD, error 404 (not found) DEAD!
Re: Game wishlist
Posted: February 3rd, 2010, 7:09 pm
by leilei
Videogamer555 wrote:The download link from their site is DEAD, error 404 (not found) DEAD!
I just downloaded TyrianFull.zip from their WorldTreeGames freewebs yesterday. It works, and this is the same zip this site used to host.
Re: Game wishlist
Posted: February 4th, 2010, 12:03 am
by Videogamer555
YOU FOUND A WORKING LINK for Tyrian2000? COOL! Please post the link here (not a reupload, but the actual official link, if it works)! PLEASE POST IT RIGHT HERE IN THIS THREAD! That way I can test it to see if it works.
On another note, the game Wintrek IS NOW RELEASED AS FREEWARE! It specifically says so on the game author's own site.
Site link here:
http://www.joejaworski.com/wintrek/
Original version (a.k.a. Wintrek 1.9) is here:
http://www.joejaworski.com/wintrek/wintrek.zip
"Enhanced" version (a.k.a. Wintrek 2.0) is here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/wintrek/
(once on page, click green download button)
Documentation for game:
http://www.joejaworski.com/wintrek/wintrek.pdf
Complete C source code for game:
http://www.joejaworski.com/wintrek/wtsource.zip
PS: I found all of these links on the website owned by the author of the game in question. they are NOT from abandonware sites.